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Old 07-21-2005, 10:26 AM   #1
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Do you believe in God?

yes or no?
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:33 AM   #2
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ha! I voted first.


Well, it depends to what you call God. I assumed you were talking about the "guy upstairs" that "inspired?" the writing of the bible. But, if that's the one your talking about, then the answer is no.
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Old 07-21-2005, 10:55 AM   #3
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Supreme being that created all this?
No
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:11 AM   #4
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i am going to take the 5th, coming from a philosophical point of view on the situation there is no way to determine if God exists or not. If you could answer that question then you would be a very rich very wise person.

As it stands this thread seems to only pick up were Joshua's thread never made it to... a heated arguement about the existince of God when no one knows the true answer. Rubbish if you ask me, but that is only if you ask me.

But a great way to start a flame thread on the forums.
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:55 AM   #5
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I attend a Catholic Church and claim it as my religion. I raise my children to be Catholics and believe in most of the teachings and morals that the Church preaches. I consider myself a realist however, and therefore am an agnostic at heart. I believe the world needs structure and religion is part of that structure. I do believe there exists an entity responsible for creating all that I see and know. I also believe that we are much too ignorant to even begin to comprehend our existence or the meaning behind it, so I try not to. I live my life the best I can, I try to help others and I let the chips fall where they may. Death scares me because I do not know what lies beyond it. I always wished I was a religious person that was certain about the after life, the peace of mind that comes with that ignorance is more comforting than they’ll ever know. If you are a devout religious person, consider yourself lucky, death hurts 1000X more for people like me.
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Old 07-21-2005, 11:59 AM   #6
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not trying to flame anyone or start a flame war, just wanted a poll to see the numbers

moondog is correct, only by belief

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Old 07-21-2005, 12:00 PM   #7
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Old 07-21-2005, 12:58 PM   #8
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Old 07-21-2005, 01:20 PM   #9
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Heh, I could cross out about half of Toro's sentences and it would match my beliefs. You can have fun guessing which half, if you want.
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Old 07-21-2005, 04:24 PM   #10
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what I don't get it the enthusiasm of every1 on both sides of the question that are quick to jump out and try to "persuade" the others on the opposite side of it being true or false. (EG I believe in God so you mut be wrong if you don't. Or, God can't exist because <insert reason here>, so you must be wrong since you didn't know that")

In the end, it really doesn't matter if the person you're trying to "persuade" believes or not. either side require an act of "faith" because neither are provable or disprovable, only rationalizable. In other words you either believe or you don't (Notice I didn't say believe in what).
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Actually, it is my experience that, in general, those who don't believe aren't nearly as enthusiastic in their non-belief as those that do believe.
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Old 07-21-2005, 06:40 PM   #12
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Actually, it is my experience that, in general, those who don't believe aren't nearly as enthusiastic in their non-belief as those that do believe.

Yeah it's like their trying to psyche themselves into believing. Those types kind of scare me. I mean they're probably good people but not the kind I'd like to hang out with.
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Old 07-21-2005, 08:47 PM   #13
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Old 07-21-2005, 09:45 PM   #14
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I attend a Catholic Church and claim it as my religion. I raise my children to be Catholics and believe in most of the teachings and morals that the Church preaches. I consider myself a realist however, and therefore am an agnostic at heart. I believe the world needs structure and religion is part of that structure. I do believe there exists an entity responsible for creating all that I see and know. I also believe that we are much too ignorant to even begin to comprehend our existence or the meaning behind it, so I try not to. I live my life the best I can, I try to help others and I let the chips fall where they may. Death scares me because I do not know what lies beyond it. I always wished I was a religious person that was certain about the after life, the peace of mind that comes with that ignorance is more comforting than they’ll ever know. If you are a devout religious person, consider yourself lucky, death hurts 1000X more for people like me.
I'm such a sucker for these threads Ok, here we go...I have followed a similar path, but I have accepted my relative insignificant role in the universe and come to terms with my mortality so religion has nothing to offer.

Scientific progress of the past century has demonstrated that there is no need for an omnipotent deity to explain where the universe came from and us for that matter.

I agree that some religions do teach important social lessons and generally keep order. However the three monotheistic ones (Christianity, Islam, Judaism) have caused more conflict and suffering than any other factor in recorded history. The idea that my way is the only way creates an atmosphere of intolerance that will keep Christians, Jews and Muslims fighting for centuries to come. At lease their numbers are dropping quickly and atheists are projected to be the majority in about 2030, so there is hope!

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Old 07-21-2005, 10:46 PM   #15
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i hate how this has become such a topic that people arent even commenting... we are on the internet where you arent even talking face to face and people wont own up... i also hate how everything always turns to heated flame wars... since when can people not discuss thing and end up just fighting in the end... what im getting at is CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG?!

btw i do but i dont... im kinda in the middle catholic is what i call myself but i really call myself an al-carte catholic, take what i want leave what i dont... in moments of desperation, and extreme sadness/ joy i can tell there is someone watching over me, guiding me... but in all those other times which typically seem to be the most of... i cant feel anything and generally just feel alone... i just had a dog die... and i can tell you that shes there, i can feel her all around me... dont know what that means.
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